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Hello all,
My chickens have really bad frost bite on their combs and a bit on their wattles. It has been incredibly cold here in Ithaca NY, -15 this morning. They live in a barn, have hay to nest in and a heat lite that they dont really use all that much. But some of the combs on my roosters are 75% black. These animals are livestock so please dont suggest taking them to the vet, I dont however, want them to be uncomfortable. I also see evedence of blood on their heads around their combs, perhaps from being pecked. Any suggestions? I have seen it suggested that the combs be cut down to a small size to prevent frostbite. This isnt really something I want to do, but would if necessary.
Thanks
My chickens have really bad frost bite on their combs and a bit on their wattles. It has been incredibly cold here in Ithaca NY, -15 this morning. They live in a barn, have hay to nest in and a heat lite that they dont really use all that much. But some of the combs on my roosters are 75% black. These animals are livestock so please dont suggest taking them to the vet, I dont however, want them to be uncomfortable. I also see evedence of blood on their heads around their combs, perhaps from being pecked. Any suggestions? I have seen it suggested that the combs be cut down to a small size to prevent frostbite. This isnt really something I want to do, but would if necessary.
Thanks
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Re: frost bite
Tue, January 20, 2009 - 11:54 PMpersonally I could never cut my chickens combs and I eat 75 percent of my birds. I just wouldn't be able to. Let the combs fall off (if they are black) would be my first thought. Same with goat ears, they turn black and fall off when left in a field under freezing temps, nothing you can do. It just 'is'
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Re: frost bite
Wed, January 21, 2009 - 4:29 AMReally Lisa?! Wow, nature is brutal! i have read that the frostbite can be painful an even cause sterility, but, me too, i eat most of my birds. We do want to set up a "honeymoon suit" for some of my pairs. We also have midget white turkeys. They are great birds, relatively docile, delicious, beautiful and you don't have to put up with nonsense that adolescent cocks go through, the fighting, raping and pillaging. -
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Wed, January 21, 2009 - 10:22 AMI know, nature is seriously, no mercy, at times. :-(
I need to look into these midget white turkeys! Do you have a more specific name that I might be able to order some? I have www.cavenyfarm.com/BourbonRedTurkeys.php
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Re: frost bite
Thu, January 22, 2009 - 10:07 AMmidget whites is actually the breeds name. they are slow food, however unlike a lot of commercially raised poultry. If you aren't interested in the large breasted freeks they sell in stores, this is a nice bird. And the dont need to be inseminated to reproduce, they do it old school :)
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we got them from Mcmurray hatchery
www.mcmurrayhatchery.com/produ...1.html
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Re: frost bite
Wed, January 21, 2009 - 10:41 AMHow many animals are you talking about? Most of the folks here have fewer than a dozen birds, so it might make more sense to check with your local county-extension agent, a 4H program or a feed store.
My understanding of frostbite is that it is cellular damage to tissue from lack of blood flow (as capillaries shut down) and or actual freezing (which breaks the cell walls). The danger with black tissue is that it is dead tissue, and may become infected, leading to gangrene or death from other infection. Small amounts of damaged tissue may heal normally, but if the skin breaks, infection is almost guaranteed. Basically cutting off the wattles is an amputation, so I *presume* that standard wound-care procedure applies: make sure the cut is as clean as possible to get out all of the damaged tissue; cauterize and cover with as clean a dressing as one can manage (creams such as you would use on your own wounds). There may be some sort of chemical available at the feed store that will help with this.
The wattle falling off is basically "self-pruning" and the body's natural response to dead tissue, and probably depends on how much tissue damage has taken place and/or the general health of the animal. Key to general health is making sure that the animal has plenty of good, high-quality food and liquid water. A defensible wind-free space where they can be in still, dry air is also crucial.
Without seeing how much tissue is damaged or how healthy each animal is, I would not make any specific suggestions, but I would only suggest attempting amputation if there is clearly a lot of damaged tissue on an otherwise-healthy and robust animal. Amputation trades permanent disfigurement to prevent a fatal infection, and presumably would only be attempted if fatal infection is the likely outcome without it. -
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Re: frost bite
Thu, January 22, 2009 - 12:45 PMI have about 40 chickens, also some ducks and turkeys.
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